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Changing Maison secondaire to Principal

Posted by harveym - Created: 4 years ago
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Posted by Foxie-986308 - 4 years ago

As Chrispy says - but further complicated by the fact that the tax authorities make the decision retrospectively, at the end of each tax year, based on what actually happened rather than what you said was going to happen. 

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Posted by Chrispy-108529 - 4 years ago

Joe Huelgoat

If you buy a house in France, sell your house in the UK and intend to live in your French house, you are automatically tax resident in France when you move here. There is no hard and fast 181 day rule.  In the UK and France there are a variety of rules to determine residence.  Intention can catch you on day one. in the uk the 180 day rule concerned people who commuted to the UK and the tax definition of a day was crucial.

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Posted by harveym - 4 years ago

Thanks for that tip will check that out when I get back to the paperwork.

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Posted by walnut72 - 4 years ago

if you have a quick look in your acte de vente when you purchased the property it should say principal or secondaire. when we bought our first house it was secondaire, when we moved permanently we didnt know we needed to change , however when we purchased our adjoining house, the notaire amended it  to principal. I think it might only matter if you sell up and go back to uk, without (like quite a few brits)actually joining the system, then there could be an issue of capital gains

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Posted by harveym - 4 years ago

Thanks for replies, we are moving over permanently beginning of June,after daughters wedding etc etc. having had the house for 10 years now we want to enjoy it even more.

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Posted by Foxie-986308 - 4 years ago

If you move now-ish, you'll need to fill your first tax form in next April and your house will be classed as your maison principale as of 1.1.16

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Posted by NellP-986196 - 4 years ago

You may need to let your local Maire know that you are now a permenant resident, ùhowever, this is just an advised procedure and your Maire will have no input on what taxes you pay, it's not his job.

The taxes relating to your property - Habitation & Fonciere, will not change unless you live in one of the few areas who "load" second homeowners, such as Paris and other major cities.  Brittany, in general, is not one of those areas.  

Your dustbin tax, Ordures Menageres, might increase, that is the only one we had to notify.  The other two will more than likely remain the same unless, when you fill in your first tax return, you declare an income low enough to be given a reduced Tax d'habitation.  If that is the case, it will be reduced automatically, you will need to do nothing.

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Posted by Joe-Huelgoat-383105 - 4 years ago

You will not get a first tax form until you actually ask for one !

The criteria for tax liability is where you live for more than 181 days in any year.

 

 

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Posted by Foxie-986308 - 4 years ago

As said - it isn't a thing that you 'do', or announce, it's a thing that is assessed according to circumstances. It becomes classed as your principal residence because of the fact that you live there, so all you have to do is live there and the rest will follow. You register your car to that address, you give that address to your bank, you tell the UK that that's where you've moved to, and after you have submitted your first income tax declaration in France from that address, the property's status will be changed automatically on the tax computer. There isn't a form to fill in or anything. Although you should probably tell your house insurers as will affect the insurance.

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Posted by LRV24 - 4 years ago

Is it your only property and your main residence? If so it will be considered to be your principal residence.