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TPN Social Energy Tariffs

Posted by airpo - Created: 3 years ago
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Posted by steverockers-392585 - 3 years ago

Grebo - as far as I understand the UK system, government pensions (not old age pension) are always paid net of tax, the tax not being reclaimable in UK if you are a registered French resident/taxpayer.  The tax paid would be declared on your French tax return but can only be refunded by a reduction in your French tax demand.  As you pay no tax in France, there is nothing to reclaim it against.  Even if you were paying tax in France, you may not get a full refund as the French calculate their tax differently to the UK

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Posted by airpo - 3 years ago

We haven't paid Taxe d'habitation for a number of years but this is the first time we have received this letter, which (if my translation is correct) says that we have 15 days to refuse it other wise it will automatically applied.

I declare our taxes on line & can't retrieve the declaration but if memory serves was about 16,000€, so Grebo, with last years exchange rate it was above the £10,000 UK tax threshold and our investments are either in Livre Blue which is tax exempt or normal deposit accounts which pay almost no interest.

I don't pretend to understand the French tax/benefit system, the first year I declared tax here I paid a LOT of Taxe d'habitation because I was still being paid from the UK, the second year with just a pension I received quite a large cheque from the French tax man, the third year I received a 1€ refund. 

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Posted by Rudge - 3 years ago

I am following this discussion with interest, I am not on TPN, am exempt from tax habitation this year on the basis of my last years tax return showing total income for 2 of us as being  £9985, euro equivalent subject to exchange rate variations of course . 

Ongoing discussion hints that I may be elligible for TPN, which has never been offerred to me !

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Posted by Grebo-210000 - 3 years ago

Airpo

Not sure what you mean by saying you deliberately keep your income low & then say you pay tax on a UK government pension. I understand it is taxable in the UK but surely it must be more than the threshold of £10500 in order to pay tax on it. Are you saying that the French benefit would be paid with an income of minimum £10500 plus income from investment?  

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Posted by Anonymous - 3 years ago

I had the TPN for about two years without ever applying for it.  I knew it might be available but understood (perhaps wrongly) that it would come as a result of one or more other low-income benefits being applied for.  It was a surprise when it started up and an equal surprise when it stopped.  I only ever had one letter and couldn't make head nor tails of it so didn't respond.  I haven't paid tax Habitation for over ten years so at least that is a help.

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Posted by Dungey1 - 3 years ago

We have had TPN for the past two years but have not received the letter this year....we still have low income and do not pay Taxe d'habitation

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Posted by buster-784461 - 3 years ago

Like all 'benefits' you have to redo it  each year!

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Posted by Anonymous - 3 years ago

I have been getting the TPN for a couple of years now but recently had the same (?) letter.  I couldn't really understand it so sent it to the bin.  I see now my TPN has been stopped.  I don't know if it is because the better exchange rate has put me back into the "affluent" bracket, or I really should have sent off the letter.  One more mystery.

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Posted by airpo - 3 years ago

Thanks bretonne.

Reveuse, I contribute to the French system in plenty of other ways and the UK system where I have to pay tax on a UK Government pension, which is the principal way I keep our Taxe d'habitation bill here low.

I see from Bretonne's link that it's up to 140€ a year which I guess covers half of the Winter Fuel Allowance us pensioners here won't get this year.

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Posted by Reveuse-918439 - 3 years ago

"We don't pay Taxe d'habitation, we deliberately keep our income below the threshold and use savings to maintain our lifestyle & have done this for a number of years."

Vive la socialisme. Now you can get cheap electricity as well, funded by those who do contribute to the economy of the country where you and they live.