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Starting your own company: why / S.A.R.L.?

Posted by vingar - Created: 14 years ago
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Posted by leslie-179832 - 14 years ago

Thnxs Beach Bum, the site for apce was just what I was looking for. The rest of the thread was not what I was after.

 

Leslie

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Posted by Bill Arkill - 14 years ago

I found the following pretty interesting reading:

http://www3.ccip.fr/inforeg/formsoc/index.html

http://www3.ccip.fr/inforeg

If you can't read french try the following which helps a little.

http://www.worldlingo.com/products_services/worldlingo_translator.html

Cheers!

Cheers,
Bill.

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Posted by mike-179830 - 14 years ago

For me, the most dramatic change in the new regulations is the fact that the non-salarié (i.e. the entreprise individuelle) no longer needs to pay social charges during the first year, and can then pay off the charges accrued during the first year over the next five at 20% per year. That makes it vastly easier to start up a small business IMO.**************
Mike

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Posted by Beach Bum - 14 years ago

Interesting thread. Have a look at this for up to date info..        

http://www.pme.gouv.fr/espritdentreprise/index.php

For more info one should contact the Maison d'Entreprise in your area or http://www.apce.com/index.php?type_page=IL&pays=1&rubrique_id=300000111

http://www.pme.gouv.fr/essentiel/vieentreprise/creaentre.htm

By the way; an accountant recently quoted 450 Euros per QUARTER to do the books of a self employed estate agent. Thats a rip off!

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Posted by pintpot59-194241 - 14 years ago

correct thats why small traders dont employ anyone its to expensive better to work on your own unless your buisness is big and you defo need a declared employe forget itski bum

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Posted by mike-179830 - 14 years ago

quote:Whatever you pay your employee, you pay the goverment the same again.

Actually, you pay the government about 40-45%.

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Mike

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Posted by pintpot59-194241 - 14 years ago

yea candice but im talking about micro enterprise you dont need an accountant for that and you dont pay vat but you can get vat back on your purchases either but for small ..as in small sole traders its the best option..i know i was enterprise individuelle before i sussed out this method its a completly different thing fiscal wise and you dont pay as many charges to the fisc ski bum

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Posted by Candice-191555 - 14 years ago

I have an Entreprise Individuelle.  You definitely need an accountant to deal with all the TVA formalities etc.  The social charges are the same if you have a micro entreprise i.e. very expensive.  It is crimininal the amount you pay per month on a pension and I probably wont even see mine.  If you have a TVA number then you can claim the tax back but then you need an accountant to do that for you. 

I still have no idea how much my Accountant is charging me as you only pay yearly.

I certainly believe you will never get rich in France.  Charges for Employees are astronomical.  Whatever you pay your employee, you pay the goverment the same again.

Never have more than 11 employees I am not sure why but I was warned by a lawyer.  It is bad enough having one.

 

Candice

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Posted by andy mac-194149 - 14 years ago

true about the being responsable for the debt thing if youre "enterprise individuel" but if you are starting small and are expecting a turnover of less than €90.000 a year i think "micro"is the one.as far as unemployment benefit goes we can all get that anyway from the r.m.i. "revenue minimum d insertion and its almost as good as the unemolyment benefit anyway depending how much the sarl was paying you - which by the way the sarl would be paying your ursaff etc-out of your own cash!..the system is set in place quite well..a micro is a sole trader,with an expected turnover of not more than around €90.000 per year also the price you sell your product..although not with vat inc is the same price as you would expect to pay as a product inclusive of vat...if you get my drift!. easy if you are expecting massive sales and investments in your first year dont go "micro" but please if you have this massive sales product ill join you as a partner in the sarl because i want to know your secret ..andy

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Posted by Beach Bum - 14 years ago

I would like to find out more abut the iniative put into place in August 2003. The government dropped the cost of setting up a company to 1 Euro from the 7000 Euro that it was. Does this mean then that creditor liability will be limited to 1 Euro!

Sounds to good to be true. If the cost has been dropped to 1 Euro then what other costs are there??